Don’t Ask Mr. Thanksgiving Advice Man About a Dern Thing
By John Kass
Wednesday Nov. 27, 2024
The last thing Mr. Thanksgiving Advice Man needed in his life is giving Thanksgiving Advice to those hosting the great American holiday feast.
When I think of Thanksgiving, I often think about the white-haired grandma holding a serving tray in the Rockwell painting, or the one above this column by Jean Leon Gerome Ferris which has nothing to do with real history, but is all about American myth.
That is what this day is all about. The American creation myth.
And if you’re just another Obama style commie bitter about the left having been beaten back by the noble MAGA counter-revolutionaries, please don’t ruin it for everyone else.
And we pray to Almighty God and give thanks for this amazing country He has given to us Americans.
Ours is a real land of milk and honey, with the streets (as my poor immigrant grandfathers thought )were paved with gold. This meant everyone who becomes a citizen has a chance to work hard and realized the great American dream for themselves.
Yet it is also a day when I’m sometimes asked for advice.
For example, what time to open the bar so that all guests, including various liberal nieces and the grumpy conservative uncle get plotzed before dinner?
(noon, if not earlier)
And when to make a video of the family argument?
(Start recording just before the police get there, and make sure you take video of your crazy MAGA Uncle John fighting with the cops, or otherwise you’ve wasted “dramatic tension” of the magic counter revolutionary moment)
And my favorite, justice for turkey skin thieves.
“Mr. Thanksgiving Advice Man, is it justifiable homicide if you kill the guest that you catch hiding in the kitchen, stealing turkey skin? Asking for a friend.” Asked Donalee Westler years ago.
No one should have to feel as if they must “steal” the skin. The host is to blame for lack proper hospitality.
Punishment? 50 lashes or a light slap on the wrist, depending.
And what’s the time to brine?
Now. That’s why I’m posting this on Wednesday. Because some of you are unsure.
As far as brining the bird, I’ve been there and done that, too. Keep it simple with sugar, salt, apple cider vinegar and water. Keep it cold. Brine overnight.
And check out this classic video I made years ago with Wings Meisner at the “paper” before the Jacobins take it down.
Then rinse the bird and put it on a rack in a pan UNCOVERED for at least 8 hours in the fridge (to dry the skin so it’ll get crispy like in the photos) until you’re ready to butter it under the skin and roast.
So yes, you must plan and know how to do simple math.
Thanksgiving is the great American holiday where we gather together to celebrate the creation myth of America.
It’s complicated. It was unfortunate what happened to the indigenous people, but if they hadn’t been moved aside, would we have America today?
No.
But I’m not giving advice about what to serve and how. I’m not some bossy old Greek Martha Stewart.
I told Betty that I was done giving Thanksgiving Day advice and planned instead on waiting it out in my dark red leather and very patriarchal throne recliner next to the fireplace bordered by collected and curated Western Literature, all the while watching the celebration of the Festival of the Concussions on TV.
“We’re going to Pete and Georgia’s house,” said Betty. “No hiding on your chair.”
Ok. I’ll give advice there. They love getting unsolicited advice. I can hear Georgia’s eyes rolling back into her head, and click when I ask in a gentle passive-aggressive tone of voice: “How was the brine?”
I love Thanksgiving at their house. Georgia is a great cook. Thanksgiving there has been a family tradition for decades.
At least I hope they’ll be serving the ultimate Southwest Side delicacy, my favorite, Mrs. Grass Onion Soup Dip Mix with Ruffles chips. Or maybe I’ll just jot it down here, so they’ll see it and perhaps not forget.
A big hoofta of dip, chips and a large scotch and soda and I’m good.
But Mr. Thanksgiving Advice Man needs to relax on this national holiday thanking Donald Trump for driving the lefties crazy.
I love my brother and sister-in-law, but I also love watching the left melt-down on MSNBC.
And I don’t think there would be anything as satisfying as sitting next to Rachel Maddow on Thanksgiving, smirking and doing the Trump dance.
Maybe wondering aloud about who might buy her broken network and mentioning off handedly that Elon Musk might buy it.
“Hey Rache? Elon is going to be your boss, no? Pass the salt and I’ll save some to rub in your wounds, ok?”
Or perhaps just saying “Anyone think that Pam Bondi(future Trump attorney general) is having a nice holiday?”
And raise a glass to 47 and promise to fight duels with anyone—man or mannish women–who’d refuse to lift a glass to all of us who defeated Jacobin Revolutionary Justice on Nov. 5.
Besides, you already know so much about Thanksgiving without me, which is steeped in important American traditions that we learned in grade school like the authentic “realistic and historically accurate” painting at the top of this column.
Like the great wonders of Manifest Destiny which provided us a country of our own, and the traditional gifts the Indians brought to that First Thanksgiving to keep the starving pilgrims alive.
What did the Indians (with feathers) bring?
Tamales for one thing.
Pocahontas loved Tom Tom Tamales from the Southwest Side of Chicago.
She’d gather them from the famed Tom Tom Tamale & Bakery over by 47th and Washtenaw.
They’re chock full of tasty including Cornmeal, Beef, Beef Fat, Salt, Spices, Paprika, Natural Flavorings.
The starving Pilgrims were so hungry they ate those hot tamales without blowing on them first, waving their hands in panic like crazy loser Tim Walz, breathing through their mouths, the tamale so hot they burned their tongues.
What else did the Indians bring to the pilgrims?
The great Daisy Brand Hot Dogs and garlicky Prasky.
These partly made up the Bohemian Triangle, a center for encased meats from the Czech-American tribes who missed the first Thanksgiving but made it over for many summer-time barbeques.
The Pilgrims and the Indians especially loved to lightly score the Daisy Brand Hot dogs before putting them over a charcoal grill.
Or smashing some garlic and throwing a sprig of rosemary and adding a tablespoon or two of olive oil into a frying pan with the scored Daisy Brand hot dog.
All the cool Indians did this. And everyone wanted to come to their barbeques, even the Mohawks.
“Epic dogs!!!” said Chief Massasoit. “I love the snap of the natural casing! Delicious!! The Wampanoag love these dogs. But are they for Thanksgiving?”
Not really, Chief, but they sure are tasty.
Pilgrim military leader Miles Standish welcomed the Greek and Italian Indian pilgrims into the fort.
“What manner of foodstuff is this? ”asked Standish.
Pastichio, General Standish!!!
And cold boiled beets smothered in garlic; also spaghetti aglio-e-olio, and a dish the Calabrian Indians called “Sauseege!!!”
And some Indians had to be asked repeatedly to bring roast turkey. No water-and-salt infused birds (you can’t brine them) but the real thing. Real turkey.
“Mom!!! Do I gotta??” said one brave.
“Your father said bring it.”
“Do I hafta brine it too?”
Yes.
Like I said: Brine simple with hooftas of brown sugar, cold water, salt and apple cider vinegar, or apple juice. And don’t bring Jell-O. Indians hate it.
Someday hundreds of years later, some wise man will bring turkey brining to the American people and take credit, like the guy who barbecued a chicken with a beer can up its behind and then everyone will brine and proclaim the genius of “Mr. Thanksgiving Advice Man.”
Question:
Do Americans of today know who Miles Standish was?
Was he cruel to the Indians?
Or did he do what was necessary to keep the Pilgrims alive and hack out a place for us in the wilderness?
Does anyone care to know?
Do they know Pocahontas was buried in the graveyard at St. George Church, Gravesend, in England?
No?
Oh, OK.
Please pass the pumpkin pie and save me some turkey skin so I don’t have to sneak into the kitchen and risk the wrath of loyal reader Donalee Westler.
And another thing:
Happy Thanksgiving, America.
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Comments 32
I looked forward to this column after reading the title but you just had to politicize it by dumping on Obama and praising MAGA. The photos were nice though.
he deserved much dumping after what he’s done. But happy thanksgiving Geraldine!
JK — Your reply here was so wise and joyful that it inspired a haiku:
Be gracious with fools
And thankful of Thanksgiving.
Justice shouldn’t gloat.
You’ve surpassed yourself! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, John. I’m thankful for your holiday cheer.
E pluribus unum. May the tribes thrive and make America greater.
I am, in addition to having started the brine process at 5 am for Mr. Turkey, AFTER coffee, making a lasagna this year, with my own homemade ricotta (not so hard), and homemade mozzarella (what was supposed to be easy was a big PITA about coagulation). I don’t care if others use bechamel. I am using ricotta. Make your own lasagna if you don’t like it, people. Bechamel just adds flour taste, even well-cooked bechamel.
I am Trump dancing every so often while I do prep.
A very happy Thanksgiving to you and Betty and the boys, John! Don’t go overboard on the Ruffles. Pace yourself.
As always, good column.
Lori!
thank you. Happy Thanksgiving!!! but don’t hate on bechamel. critical for pastichio.
Classic South Side patois, this – “She’d gather them from the famed Tom Tom Tamale & Bakery over by 47th and Washtenaw.”
Over by!!!!! Now, that is giving direction to the lost!
one south sider to another,
Down by dere…as the Richards J. and M. used to utter.
Happy Thanksgiving, We the People! God is good!
Funny! Especially since I get to teach the 1st Thanksgiving to my classes today. Bonus Question: What was eaten at the 2nd Thanksgiving?
Answer: Nothing! There was a drought, so they spent the day in fastin and prayer. The rains came.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone at JKN.
Great article, and even better video. Thoroughly enjoyed watching John, Jason, and Mom Kass in the kitchen. I’ve been brining my birds for several years now, grilling them outside no matter what the weather is, using charcoal and gas ( I grill 2 at once), both in different brines which give 2 different flavors mainly because of fuel source. I was beaming with pride watching John’s brining process which is almost identical to mine, knowing that my birds are coming out up to Chef Kasso’s expectations.
I will be outside Thursday, grilling, wearing my “ no chumbolone” hat, doing the Trump dance, fully appreciative of the bounty the good Lord has provided.
John, great work, lots of fun memories. Wishing all the best this Thanksgiving.
Another great article, John. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone at JKN!
As always, terrific article! May you and yours have the best Thanksgiving ever!! And please, don’t ever stop writing!
A Very Happy Thanksgiving to the Kass family!
God bless the United States of America!
Happy Thanksgiving John and family, and all loyal readers and listeners. God bless all of you!
John, keep up the good work. May you and your family have a happy and safe Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving and May All Get Along. Oh wait, that abbreviates to MAGA. Hmmm. In that case happy MAGA to all.
thanks Paul Bilotta!!!!
Thank you John. Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃
I always forget about Mrs. Grass until you mind me at this time of year. Will have to see if Publix has it when shopping today. Also going to see my liberal friends later. Should I do the Trump dance? Happy Thanksgiving to you, Betty and the rest of the family.
Excellent column!
FESTIVAL OF CONCUSSIONS. Love it. The billionaires of football finessed this human tragedy to maintain their huge profits. One has to be a fool to play or let your kids play this Russian roulette of sports. The CTE was known decades ago. While in pathology residency I was assigned to do a literature search of boxers brains. Well what did I find? CTE! Wasn’t called that then but it was known. This is not a new disease. ITS IN ALL CONTACT SPORTS!
Unfortunately, people need their addictions, ie alcohol, cigs, processed food, opioids, etc. I saw this in my grandpa’s tavern. Blue collar workers who needed a drink and cig after work (and for some before work) to get thru the day and bury theirs hurts, whatever they were. Sadly addictions come in all forms.
Finally, tried your hot dog recipe: delish! You need to provide a list of all these great food places you have mentioneds.Never knew of this company!
Keep on trucking JK
Yianni,
We the people, tend to forget just how great this country is. We have survived these past awful four years of socialist propaganda and monumental BS – aka “misinformation” – to finally come to the clearing of the forest to breathe some fresh air. For 4 years, throughout the diatribes and lies of the Joe mumbles administration, I have prayed for EEPOMONI – patience as the Greeks say. Prayers have been answered, and we’re about to undertake a new journey of common sense and patriotism from our “new” government. As Ronald Reagan often said, government is the problem. More true of late! I’m thankful your voice is strong, and your heart is with us. Never stop speaking out – and speaking the truth! I wish you, Betty, your sons and brother’s family a joyous, blessed Thanksgiving. We all have SO much for which to be thankful!
Happy Thanksgiving Mr Kass and Family, and Nick family too!
Maybe us folks in Flyover do things differently. Going to Iowa to Aunt and Uncle. Cousin will be Smoking a turkey (i will find out what he marinated it in). In the past Deep fried. Usually Beef also (my uncle raised Angus).
Enjoy your articles and Podcast. Especially your last one talking with Mrs Ives. Illinois isn’t broke its Fixed. Hopefully the Velvet Hammer gets crushed. Good day Sir!
You had me at the Pastichio…lost me on the beets!
Is there a way to brine a turkey with the salty tears of the leftists?
That would just add to the flavor. . .
What am I thankful for? My wife, son, daughter, son in law, relatives and friends. Good health, a part time job (I’m well past retirement age) but can pass on 40 years of experience! I’m thankful for the conservative thought even among traditional Democrat voters that still lives on in the American spirit and clearly told the left ENOUGH! at the ballot box. And I’m thankful for you and your colleague guest columnists for keeping that spirit and a good cup of midwestern common sense alive!
“Festival of the Concussions on TV” …….. You need to trademark that phrase John!
I also appreciated your insight into the local purveyors of local ethnic food. I wish I lived closer so I could experience the food tips!
Happy Thanksgiving John. Keep writing. I am happy to drink liberal tears with you. Mixed with our favorite brown liquor of course. We aren’t animals.
In our family, we decided that we didn’t actually like turkey. So, we do prime rib instead. Dry brined of course.
Long live Crawford Sausage Co.! I’ m a white brat fan.Since early 1980’s my dad had a small food distributorship in the city we resold their products throughout the city.Always have some in the freezer up here in the north country.Thank you for keeping the free press alive John! Happy Thanksgiving
George B.Manistee,Mi.
Happy Thanksgiving John!!!!